#dev 2026-05-01

2026-05-01 UTC
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[artlung] https://archive.softwareheritage.org/ is new to me.
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yesoperator I can't figure out why my site, https://reeds.websitr isn't working to login to indielogin.com - i have both GitHub and bsky setup.
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yesoperator Thought I'd ask here if I'm missing something obvious before making a GitHub issue as the site suggested
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IWDiscord <y​esoperator>
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yesoperator [edit] I can't figure out why my site, https://reeds.websitr isn't working to login to indielogin.com - i have GitHub and bsky and email setup.
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yesoperator Thought I'd ask here if I'm missing something obvious before making a GitHub issue as the site suggested
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IWDiscord <y​esoperator>
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yesoperator [edit] I can't figure out why my site, https://reeds.website isn't working to login to indielogin.com - i have GitHub and bsky and email setup.
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yesoperator Thought I'd ask here if I'm missing something obvious before making a GitHub issue as the site suggested
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IWDiscord <y​esoperator>
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[Kupietz] @yesoperator You don't have any `rel="me"` links set up in your site `head` section. See https://indieauth.com/setup or https://indielogin.com/setup
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yesoperator Thank you [Kupietz]]++ I thought based on this doc https://microformats.org/wiki/RelMeAuth I could use a tags in the body instead of link tags in the head, and if I didn't want to have those links on my home page I could link to my contacts page with them.
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yesoperator But I'm totally confused by the relationship between relmeauth, websignin, indie auth, and indie login, going by the seat of my pants here
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IWDiscord <y​esoperator>
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Loqi [preview] Tantek Çelik
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yesoperator Working now with those links, ty [Kupietz]++
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Loqi [Kupietz] has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (23 in all channels)
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[capjamesg] TIL about Mastodon Glitch Edition: https://omglol.news/2026/04/30/social-lol-is-gonna-go-glitchy-in-a-good-way
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[tantek] [Kupietz] there is no requirement for the rel=me link(s) to be in the head element. Quite the opposite. It's preferred to have them in the body element on the links you already have to your other profiles.
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[tantek] wait yet another software meaning of Glitch?
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[capjamesg] yesoperator https://indieweb.org/Web_sign-in#Details talks about some of the similarities and differences. Let us know if you have any questions after reading that!
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[capjamesg] Glitch Edition looks like it has a few cool features like hiding follower counts (https://glitch-soc.github.io/docs/)
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[Kupietz] [tantek] @yesoperator I stand corrected on the location of the links, however, it looks like it works either way, and I’m glad that it worked for you now. I believe I have them in my ‘head’ myself, because I don’t have links to my GitHub on my homepage.
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[tantek] yes they originally only worked in the body but exactly that use-case [Kupietz] is the reason we made them work in the head also
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yesoperator I had that in my contact page body, but it wasn't working. I'm not understanding why indielogin.com wasn't looking on my contact page and seeing it.
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IWDiscord <y​esoperator>
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yesoperator Is that because it's only relmeauth that does that, but other indie auth doesn't do that jump?
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[tantek] did you use your contact page with indielogin?
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[tantek] there is no crawling in these protocols. what you submit as the URL to sign in with is what is used
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yesoperator Ah I didn't try that, just my plain domain. maybe I'll revert and try that, thank you.
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yesoperator The jump I'm referring to is described here https://microformats.org/wiki/RelMeAuth under the heading "separate contact page"
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IWDiscord <y​esoperator>
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Loqi [preview] Tantek Çelik
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[tantek] good catch. we added that for the use-cases but I'm not sure it was ever implemented. may need to move that to a different section
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[tantek] if I recall correctly, implementers were saying there was too much overhead (too many http requests) to try all the subpages people may link to with rel=me
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yesoperator That makes sense, thank you, I'm officially un-confused
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[capjamesg] PSA, new Linux kernel vulnerability: https://copy.fail/
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aaronpk That seems very bad
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aaronpk Kinda makes me want to shut down as many of my public web services as I can
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[capjamesg] HN has more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47952181 (I don’t usually share HN links, but I don’t understand this well enough but maybe the insights there are helpful)
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paultibbetts hey folks, there’s a post in the stream channel that had the same issue I did and I wanted to clarify my understanding before I incorrectly edit the wiki
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paultibbetts context: bluesky/ATProto doesn’t let you use `rel=me` to link back to your site, so you need to link to your profile as `rel=me atproto` for RelMeAuth
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paultibbetts 1. am I correct, and could this be highlighted more on the indieauth.com, rel-me and “how to set up web sign-in on your own domain” wiki pages? any others? (it is mentioned briefly on some of these pages)
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paultibbetts 2. even with `rel=me atproto` indiewebify.me states bluesky “does not link back”, is that a valid feature enhancement opportunity?
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paultibbetts cc aaronpk as the author of the rel-atproto wiki page
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aaronpk What is rel-at-proto?
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Loqi rel-atproto is a link relation that can be added to your rel-me links to indicate that this link is an ATProto account handle and an authentication option in RelMeAuth https://indieweb.org/rel-atproto
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aaronpk Hm, I bet indiewebify.me doesn't know about that
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aaronpk The other problem is these things don't necessarily return HTML that can be checked for the backlink, which is what happened with twitter a while ago. So indielogin.com verifies the "link" after you log in by using the API
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paultibbetts ok thank you, so not a quick change for indiewebify.me to add it. I'll add a note to the wiki page that indiewebify.me links to to highlight bluesky as needing the extra value
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aaronpk Yeah, the only way to really check for the backlink is to do the actual OAuth flow
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